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Post by nobody on Aug 13, 2009 12:58:13 GMT
After a article that was printed in the USA that said... People such as scientist Stephen Hawking wouldn't have a chance in the U.K., where the National Health Service would say the life of this brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is essentially worthlessFunny i thought Stephen Hawking was born in the UK  And i believe Palin said her handicapped son would face a death panel if he was born in the UK. So someone on twitter has set up #WeLoveTheNHS to show our support for the NHS and i believe that yesterday so many people posted to #WeLoveTheNHS that it caused twitter to crash. So if anyone goes on twitter perhaps they would like to post. |
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Post by maureen on Aug 13, 2009 13:05:58 GMT
Boy, the writer of that article is out of touch. Makes you wonder how it got a job in writing if it can't even be bothered to do its research on its subject before sending that one out.  ;D |
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Post by honilia on Aug 13, 2009 13:07:02 GMT
Thanks for posting this Nobody, I started posted on this yesterday and it's amazing the amount of people doing the same. You can also add a Twibbon to your picture to show support at twibbon.com/join/welovetheNHS  |
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Post by beckstar on Aug 13, 2009 13:08:55 GMT
After a article that was printed in the USA that said... People such as scientist Stephen Hawking wouldn't have a chance in the U.K., where the National Health Service would say the life of this brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is essentially worthlessFunny i thought Stephen Hawking was born in the UK And i believe Palin said her handicapped son would face a death panel if he was born in the UK. So someone on twitter has set up #WeLoveTheNHS to show our support for the NHS and i believe that yesterday so many people posted to #WeLoveTheNHS that it caused twitter to crash. So if anyone goes on twitter perhaps they would like to post. He was absolutely born in the UK! Slap bang in the middle of WWII, in fact... Of course, Hawking was not born with his physical disabilities - they developed in his early 20s when he was a student. Whoever wrote that article clearly has very little idea who Stephen Hawking is! |
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Post by honilia on Aug 13, 2009 13:16:09 GMT
Also I don't know if anyone saw this bit.ly/smRFe "I wouldn't be here today if it were not for the NHS": Stephen Hawking. I bet whichever American Right Politician made the first statement feels a little bit silly now. I think it's madness how many people in America think that the health reform is a way of the government controlling them completely when clearly there are so many people out there who are seriously ill and not getting treatment due to finance. I found this really scary bit.ly/NCB3e  |
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Post by nobody on Aug 13, 2009 13:18:11 GMT
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Post by nobody on Aug 13, 2009 13:21:23 GMT
Also I don't know if anyone saw this bit.ly/smRFe "I wouldn't be here today if it were not for the NHS": Stephen Hawking. I bet whichever American Right Politician made the first statement feels a little bit silly now. I think it's madness how many people in America think that the health reform is a way of the government controlling them completely when clearly there are so many people out there who are seriously ill and not getting treatment due to finance. I found this really scary bit.ly/NCB3e I know what you mean on the board where we are talking about this there is a man who is going to die unless they can get this reform in because he can not afford his meds  |
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Post by honilia on Aug 13, 2009 13:32:36 GMT
Thanks for the youtube link Nobody, argh Dan Hannan I hate him. Of course there are waiting lists, people are always going to get ill fact!! We DO have a brilliant NHS where people are treated mostly efficiently and are happy with their treatment. There are always going to be mistakes and some bad experiences, after all doctors and nurses are humans too. Argh he annoys me soo much...SORRY  it's just it provides for ill people that would be otherwise screwed money wise. I just think back a few months to the care the NHS gave my nephew before he passed away and it was amazing. We couldn't have asked for more. And money wise...if they get rid of the NHS many won't be able to find work in the private sector...so isn't that going to mean more and more unemployment benefits??? Rant over anyways...I apologise  |
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Post by beckstar on Aug 13, 2009 13:37:30 GMT
We complain a lot in the UK about the NHS - we complain we have to wait days for a GP appt or a hospital visit or that a prescription is £7, but we're so lucky, aren't we, to even HAVE the NHS. I had what I assume was Swine Flu a couple of weeks ago and the online and phone service was brilliant - I had Tamiflu within hours and the NHS Direct Website was excellent, as was my GP when I went to see her - for free. In the US I'd probably have been unable to afford to go for treatment, and that's just for flu. The cost of being SERIOUSLY ill in the US must be utterly terrifying.
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Post by nobody on Aug 13, 2009 13:46:13 GMT
It makes me laugh how the anti NHS lot go on about waiting list because i bet even if they have insurance they have to wait for someone in a suit to say yes we will pay for this treatment.
And it would not surprise me to learn that some company's delay the decision because if would be cheaper for them to let you die.
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Post by nobody on Aug 13, 2009 14:06:31 GMT
Did anyone here see the show on BBC 4 about how Nye Bevan set the NHS up in only 6 months.
I did not see it all because i lost the internet and time it came back up it had been took of the Iplayer list.
But i was amazed that with the country being smashed to bits he manged it so quickly.
Would have loved to know how he got the civil service to move so fast.
I think he is a forgotten hero
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Post by TheDaisy on Aug 13, 2009 14:35:53 GMT
I'm perfectly happy with the NHS - they've saved my life once for sure (when I was a kid) and I have no idea if what I had in January would/could have been fatal, but it was certainly unpleasant. And the NHS stops me having to pay for the medicine that I take every day to keep me alive and upright.
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Post by nobody on Aug 13, 2009 14:56:14 GMT
I was 1lb14oz when i was born and the NHS was there for me and it was there for the guy that my ambulance ran over on the way to the baby unit ;D
And i hope it around has long as there is a UK.
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Post by TheDaisy on Aug 13, 2009 15:01:50 GMT
I was 1lb14oz when i was born and the NHS was there for me and it was there for the guy that my ambulance ran over on the way to the baby unit ;D Oh, I'm sorry, but that made me giggle ;D Getting run over by an ambulance! |
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Post by jacqui on Aug 13, 2009 15:19:36 GMT
I work for the NHS so i'm saying nowt  But..... I don't think you can beat it really compared to the medical service some countries offer. |
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Post by honilia on Aug 13, 2009 15:59:45 GMT
I work for the NHS so i'm saying nowt But..... I don't think you can beat it really compared to the medical service some countries offer. I worked for the Nhs for four years, so I know where you're coming from! ;D To be honest, towards the end I hated each day I was there. But all the same like you say you can't beat it....and it's there for a good reason!! |
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Post by Vixen on Aug 13, 2009 19:43:05 GMT
OK, personal opinion here. Purely based on the local hospital in my area, and my dealings with the NHS. I think it's sh*te. I really do. Especially for elderly people. Just because they're old (and in the case of the load where I work, mentally infirmed), it doesn't deny them the right to a decent service. And yet, whenever any of ours go into hospital, they come out worse. They aren't prompted to eat, they are catheterised the minute they go in, to save the staff the hassle of having to get them up and change them etc. It's disgusting, and I'm proud to say, as a Carer, that I do a damn better job for those old people, than a nurse at the local hospital EVER would.
EDIT: I'd also like to point out that every nurse at the local hospital I've come into contact with, has looked down their nose at me because I'm less qualified than they. At least my people skills are a darn sight better!
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Post by inky on Aug 13, 2009 20:24:35 GMT
I think I know where you are coming from Vix. Personally, when I needed a hip replacement at a relatively young age (under 50) it was sorted in no time at all but my poor mum, who worked all her life, didn't have the same treatment. She was in desparate need, she could hardly manage stairs or walk to the end of the garden, was told '9 - 12 months waiting list'. Luckily, she could afford to pay for her hip to be done privately but why the hell she had to is beyond me |
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Post by beckstar on Aug 13, 2009 20:45:34 GMT
I must admit (and I apologise to anyone who's heard this rant before) that the onlybit of the NHS that I've encountered that is crap is the blood service. They'd have much more blood available to treat people if they actually kept appointments and made it less damned inconvenient to donate, and if they stopped the homophobic rules about who can and can't give blood. My mum works in the children's cancer ward in a major hospital, and she's seen operations on horrifically sick kids cancelled because they have a rare blood group and nothibg's available, yet when she goes to donate blood in her lunch break they tell her there's a two hour wait.
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Post by TheDaisy on Aug 13, 2009 20:47:35 GMT
I can't give blood - I'm not allowed. I'd quite like to, and goodness knows I'm not afraid of needles being stuck in me, but diabetics aren't allowed to donate.
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Post by nobody on Aug 13, 2009 21:44:59 GMT
I think with the elderly it can be a lottery my grandmother had a good stay in hospital but she died in 2003 but i think more and more stuff has been given to private firms to run since them.
I know my grandmother's home help was a private firm and the list of things they could not do made them about has much use as a chocolate tea pot it was not the staff's fault i lay the blame with the mangers who just want to cut costs no matter what has long has it does not mean they have to have a pay cut.
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Post by incognito on Aug 15, 2009 13:05:42 GMT
I'm always in and out of hospital so I'm very accustomed to the NHS. So far this year I've had to go to hospital about 6 times excluding various check-ups Our A&E department has been excellent recently, as far as I'm concerned; I've never had to wait more than an hour to be seen. A couple of years ago when I had anorexia I remember the handling of the situation being very poor, but since then I've had no complaints (granted, everything has been entirely physical since). When I was leaving A&E last week I saw a bloke entering with his finger hanging off! |
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Post by incognito on Aug 15, 2009 13:10:38 GMT
^All of my eldery relatives (which constitutes the majority of them in the UK) seem to have said that their hospital treatment was good.
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it's just it provides for ill people that would be otherwise screwed money wise. I just think back a few months to the care the NHS gave my nephew before he passed away and it was amazing. We couldn't have asked for more. And money wise...if they get rid of the NHS many won't be able to find work in the private sector...so isn't that going to mean more and more unemployment benefits??? 
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