Heartabam
Smutty Mayhemer
Curse you careless air!!
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Post by Heartabam on Feb 7, 2011 23:06:58 GMT
How the hell have we gotten into such a nanny state! I even got into trouble at work the other day there (verbal warning) after I told off a guy who I work with. He's been coming onto me for a while and after I had knocked him back (again) he told me that he thought that us white girls were all easy targets! So I explained that thats more or less the same as me assuming he was a terrorist just because he is from that part of the world and has a beard. (harsh, and the words were said out of anger) He complained about me and I got hauled up infront of management.
As far as stereotypes go may I remind all these people complaining about the show Allo Allo- a show made up almost entirely of stereotypes. Blackadder had alot of stereotypes. Also if my knowledge serves me- Rik Mayall has said some really offensive stuff in the past and noone has picked up on it on the same scale as TG has.
Its going to get to the case that we are not allowed to say hello to someone without getting shouted at for being racist...
that said, I feel richards comment was forced, it looked as though they had moved on from the subject but what he said was completely unnecessary and uncalled for.
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Post by nobody on Feb 7, 2011 23:15:05 GMT
How the hell have we gotten into such a nanny state! I even got into trouble at work the other day there (verbal warning) after I told off a guy who I work with. He's been coming onto me for a while and after I had knocked him back (again) he told me that he thought that us white girls were all easy targets! So I explained that thats more or less the same as me assuming he was a terrorist just because he is from that part of the world and has a beard. (harsh, and the words were said out of anger) He complained about me and I got hauled up infront of management. As far as stereotypes go may I remind all these people complaining about the show Allo Allo- a show made up almost entirely of stereotypes. Blackadder had alot of stereotypes. Also if my knowledge serves me- Rik Mayall has said some really offensive stuff in the past and noone has picked up on it on the same scale as TG has. Its going to get to the case that we are not allowed to say hello to someone without getting shouted at for being racist... that said, I feel richards comment was forced, it looked as though they had moved on from the subject but what he said was completely unnecessary and uncalled for. I hope the management had him in the office has well |
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Heartabam
Smutty Mayhemer
Curse you careless air!!
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Post by Heartabam on Feb 7, 2011 23:38:33 GMT
Nobody hunn your comment dissappeared again lol
edit: Should maybe send a message to the mexican ambassador to check out National Lamthingys: TV the Movie. I bought it originally for the fact it has steve-o, chris pontius, wee man and preston lacey of Jackass fame but I didnt find the movie funny at all. It is very offencive towards mexicans saying that their police force is corrupt, they are lazy, their women are prostitutes etc etc. ALOT more offensive that anything Top Gear were saying!
Also as well to any overly religious types it portays jesus as gay. Feminists will be angrey as it shows ALOT of nudity. The list is endless. Yet it is a somewhat successfull film. Yet i find it MORE offensive than top gear....hows that for logic?
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Post by dit on Feb 15, 2011 23:41:59 GMT
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Post by dit on Feb 17, 2011 0:11:37 GMT
Still smarmy after all these years.....As reported in the Evening Standard, Tony Blair has now joined the debate - funny he should come out with these comments when he's actually on a visit to Mexico. Trade visit, perhaps?
"Tony Blair has waded into the Top Gear racism row, attacking the show's presenters over their jibes about Mexicans.
The former prime minister said he understood the hurt Jeremy Clarkson and his BBC colleagues had caused with their comments after reviewing a Mexican car.
During a visit to the northern Mexican city of Monterrey, he said: "Top Gear has said much worse things about me. You have my full support in this. Mexico is destined to be one of the great countries of the world, so don't worry when you come across prejudice." "
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Post by nobody on Feb 17, 2011 15:34:37 GMT
Still smarmy after all these years.....As reported in the Evening Standard, Tony Blair has now joined the debate - funny he should come out with these comments when he's actually on a visit to Mexico. Trade visit, perhaps? " Tony Blair has waded into the Top Gear racism row, attacking the show's presenters over their jibes about Mexicans.
The former prime minister said he understood the hurt Jeremy Clarkson and his BBC colleagues had caused with their comments after reviewing a Mexican car.
During a visit to the northern Mexican city of Monterrey, he said: "Top Gear has said much worse things about me. You have my full support in this. Mexico is destined to be one of the great countries of the world, so don't worry when you come across prejudice." " Blair should think himself lucky that he's only had words thrown at him. |
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Post by dit on Jul 10, 2011 18:28:13 GMT
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Post by antonia on Jul 10, 2011 19:09:33 GMT
From a bloke from the north he has a bit of a cheek.
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Post by inky on Jul 10, 2011 21:28:09 GMT
Having worked in Salford Quays I have to wonder why the beeb thought the move was a good idea. We had big signs in the works car park telling us to place any valuables under the car seats as we left the building as the local wildlife residents regularly stood at the traffic lights waiting to put a brick through the passenger window to nick your handbag if it was on display. I live up here but wouldn't want to work there again  |
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Post by liverbird on Jul 10, 2011 23:12:55 GMT
Sometimes I wonder if Jezza says things to spark debate. I can't ever see them moving TG to the right side of Watford gap, (lol). If they did I could feign illness every time they taped the show.
"Dear Boss, sorry I can't come into work today as James May will be looking in my direction at some point during the taping of BBC's Top Gear and I will spontaneously combust".
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Post by chariset on Jul 11, 2011 1:54:28 GMT
No idea what the Watford Gap is, but let's face it... he's like Frankie Boyle. He's made his living speaking his mind, as himself, in the most direct (and often provocative) way possible. It would be out of character for him to just 'turn it off' when he's not talking about cars.
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Post by lew on Jul 11, 2011 7:43:28 GMT
My brother in law comes from Salford, has family in Salford......and even he thought the beeb were mad with this move, though good for residents selling/renting property, some have made a mint.
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Post by amie8 on Jul 11, 2011 22:08:21 GMT
From a bloke from the north he has a bit of a cheek. Yes, but he's a Yorkshireman. Wrong side of the Pennines etc |
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Post by dit on Jul 11, 2011 23:38:20 GMT
Yep, Wars of the Roses, and all that.
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Post by Wyvern on Jul 12, 2011 0:51:31 GMT
Though to be fair, I can't imagine him being any more enthusiastic about, say, Leeds* or his home town of Doncaster...
*Leeds *shudder* Been there once, that was enough.
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Post by antonia on Jul 12, 2011 7:25:07 GMT
From a bloke from the north he has a bit of a cheek. Yes, but he's a Yorkshireman. Wrong side of the Pennines etc Yep! but it's still north (though will admit I'm crap with directions and have no idea how to work a compass.lol) ;D |
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Post by dit on Jul 12, 2011 9:00:46 GMT
You don't need a compass - just follow the scent of the black puddings!
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Post by antonia on Jul 12, 2011 12:11:03 GMT
*snort*
I truely don't no directions to anywhere.I went home to Liverpool once went shopping then went back to mums home took a wrong turn and ended back up on the M62 heading the wrong direction.
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Post by sapphireeyes on Jul 12, 2011 16:27:16 GMT
Without the North West, we wouldn't have had Patsy Slevin's Home Made Beer for James to taste, TVR the home of the car that Jeremy himself drove, Blackpool Illuninations, for which Jeremy and Richard attempted to switch on. Cloth Cap and Clogs, Ehhh by Heck. And all this my cousin has and loves, Harry Ramsdens is also in Manchester, in fact not too far from the Granada studios, in which Richard began his career when he did Men on Motors for Sky.
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Post by chariset on Jul 12, 2011 17:00:13 GMT
While we're on the topic of the North (eeh), can someone explain to me why any sentence with the word "Northern" and "whippet" in it is funny? Do Northerners have whippets? And if so, why is that a class stigma? Whippets are fairly innocuous little sighthounds -- if you had one in the US it would seem a little novel and slightly upper class (the middle class dog is the Golden Retriever or Black Lab). Is the idea that you don't eat meat unless your whippet catches a rabbit for you?
Same thing with "Northern" and "pastry."
I've come to conclude that "Northern whippet pastry" must be the funniest sentence in the world.
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Post by antonia on Jul 12, 2011 18:05:21 GMT
I think it's a Northen stereotype.Men must wear cloth caps,drink mild or bitter,have a whippet and go dog racing at the weekends.I've tried to find the sketch but this was the best I could do.The guy at the end in the original was the working class northener. youtu.be/0JSahEDRjvwHere is another parody thats just funny youtu.be/GAkhW14fhFsThey are all mainly Yorkshire based.Scousers and Mancs are another breed completely. Harry Enfield Scoucers youtu.be/sBYlXfjKru4Harry Enfield Mancester youtu.be/tbqkN6W8j38Heres a how to Speak British Accents youtu.be/KH_kOjsXakM |
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Post by dit on Jul 12, 2011 18:39:56 GMT
I think part of it is the fact that the whippet is such a small dog, like a second rate greyhound, and the stereotype tends to be a solitary, skinny little man in his flat cap and scarf with his skinny little dog. A phrase often used in this neck of the woods refers to this as in,
"Do you think he/they will get much of an audience?"
"Probably only the proverbial one man and his whippet."
This sits alongside the stereotype of the Lancashire wife, a huge busty woman with her hair in rollers under a scarf, completely dwarfing, and dominating, her husband.
There seems to be some evidence of this as can be seen in historic newsreels, especially of the crowds of visitors on Blackpool promenade in the early part of the 20th century, for example.
The pastry thing seems to be based on the misguided concept that Northeners eat nothing but pies, ones with white, soggy pastry at that, which is reflected in both their weight and their skin-tone.
None/only some of the above, of course, is true.
Conclusion of Sociology 101.
Personally, I blame the cold weather.
Signed, a native Lancastrian.
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Post by eshalda on Jul 12, 2011 18:50:36 GMT
Wyvern, how I agree with you about Leeds, and I have the misfortune to live here. I'm originally a 'coastal' girl coming from Scarborough, and that is where my heart is. I had to move here because of work. Fortunately I live about six miles outside Leeds which means I very rarely go into the city - about twice a year, and when I have to go to hospital. As for Northern stereotypes, there are still plenty of people around that fit the brief. As I remember Jeremy has made a few derogertory comments about his home town, and also Rotherham, where James lived.
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Post by antonia on Jul 12, 2011 19:17:11 GMT
basically what Dit said but more eloquently.lol.
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Post by amie8 on Jul 12, 2011 22:30:52 GMT
While we're on the topic of the North (eeh), can someone explain to me why any sentence with the word "Northern" and "whippet" in it is funny? Do Northerners have whippets? And if so, why is that a class stigma? Whippets are fairly innocuous little sighthounds -- if you had one in the US it would seem a little novel and slightly upper class (the middle class dog is the Golden Retriever or Black Lab). Is the idea that you don't eat meat unless your whippet catches a rabbit for you? Same thing with "Northern" and "pastry." I've come to conclude that "Northern whippet pastry" must be the funniest sentence in the world. It was traditional for miners to own and race whippets - hence the association with the northern working class. Racing pigeons have similar connotations, although they're pretty common all over the country. I'm not really aware of any connection between "northern" and "pastry", though. Haven't heard that one. |
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Post by dit on Jul 12, 2011 22:57:41 GMT
Haven't you heard the cry of "Who ate all the pies!"? That originated in the north. And the people of a certain town (beginning with a 'Wi' and ending with a 'gan') are often called 'pie-eaters', though that's originally for historical reasons nothing to do with pastry. There is a great proliferation of pies in the north, it has to be said.
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Post by dit on Jul 27, 2011 14:21:04 GMT
For once, it's Jeremy 1, Piers Morgan 0!
This is from Morgan's column in the Mail on Sunday magazine, 24/7/11
I flew to Los Angeles today and one of the BA stewardesses came up to me an hour into the flight, and the following conversation ensued:
‘I’ve got to say that I really enjoy your programme.’
‘Oh, thanks very much.’
‘I don’t normally watch it, but my other half made me the other night, and I loved it.’
‘That’s very kind of you.’
‘It’s so entertaining, and funny!’
‘Thanks again.’
‘I was excited when I saw you were on board today, because I thought I’d be able to tell you in person.’
‘Really appreciate it.’
‘There’s just something so clever about the way you make cars seem so appealing to women.’
WHAT?
‘I’m sorry, what did you say?’
‘I said I love the way you make cars so appealing to women.’
‘Cars?’
She looked bemused. ‘Yes, cars.’
‘Who do you think I am?’
She blushed. ‘You present that car show, don’t you?’
‘You think I’m Jeremy Clarkson, don’t you?’
‘Erm… well… aren’t you?’
‘No. In fact you couldn’t have got this more wrong if you’d tried. We’re sworn enemies.’
‘Oh no, how embarrassing. I’m so sorry.’
‘See this scar on my temple? That’s from his clunking fist.’
‘Noooo! Really? Oh God, this is awful. I feel terrible now.’I laughed.
‘Relax, you’re not the first to make this mistake and I fear you won’t be the last. I’m Piers.’
‘Oh no, I know that now. I love your shows, too.’
‘Of course you do. No problem,’ I said.
‘I think I’d better leave you in peace.’
‘Maybe, yes.’
Though it does appear to be nil-nil with Sandra Parsons today:
It’s all Clarkson’s fault.
It’s been a difficult year for Jeremy Clarkson.
First, there was the story of an alleged extra-marital affair.
Then he turned out to have had a minor role in Hackgate: as a key member of the Chipping Norton set, he was even at the famous Christmas dinner with David Cameron and Rebekah Brooks.
Now it’s revealed he is one of Norwegian killer Anders Breivik’s heroes, because ‘Top Gear is one of the funniest shows on TV’.
Is there a major story that doesn’t involve Clarkson, I wonder?
I fully anticipate that in the next few days we’ll learn that he’s to blame for the collapse of the U.S. economy, and that for decades he has been a secret adviser to Colonel Gaddafi.
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Post by antonia on Jul 27, 2011 15:06:47 GMT
I read that on sunday and me and OH laughed our heads off.Would have loved to have been on that flight.I also read that this morning I always knew Clarkson was in league with the devil and was trying to end earth as we know it.LOL
What a man!!!!!I luv him
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Post by Vivienne on Jul 27, 2011 15:55:12 GMT
Bet Jezza got a laugh out of that!
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Post by Wyvern on Jul 27, 2011 18:42:09 GMT
*sporfles*
That's hysterical - how could anyone muddle up my gorgeous Jezza with that weasel-faced little custard? Whoever that woman was, she has made my day ;D
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