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Post by amie8 on Dec 1, 2011 23:43:14 GMT
What is really sad is that the UK (and the rest of Europe) is in the worst mess it has been for years and years but the one thing hitting the headlines is Jeremy making a typical 'Jeremy' comment on The One Show which is probably the worst show on the beeb  Ah well...takes our minds off the recession and the break up of the Eurozone! |
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Post by inky on Dec 1, 2011 23:49:49 GMT
...The One Show which is probably the worst show on the beeb I'm not sure about that - 'Snog, Marry, Avoid' is a BBC show too... I must lead a sheltered life cos I've never seen that Wy (nor will I ever do so now you've tipped me off  ) |
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Post by Wyvern on Dec 2, 2011 0:09:06 GMT
I'm not sure about that - 'Snog, Marry, Avoid' is a BBC show too... I must lead a sheltered life cos I've never seen that Wy (nor will I ever do so now you've tipped me off ) I think 'avoid' is the operative word... ;D |
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Post by dit on Dec 2, 2011 0:09:48 GMT
Silly me - I thought 'Snog, Marry, Avoid' was a comedy...
Going the rounds (you'll understand it if you know about Benton/Fenton):
Clarkson filmed chasing public sector workers across Richmond Park with James May shouting - "Clarkson - CLARKSON - CLARKSON! Jesus Christ!"
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Post by adrianmay on Dec 2, 2011 7:36:46 GMT
Oh right. For everyone who wants to see it.I beat my computer into some form of working so far. It really does not like me today, and it's a new machine!  Hope I didn't mess that up. I am really really enjoying large amounts of tasty Oregon pinot noir right now. I recommend it to everyone. Unless you're about to drive. Oh that was fun. Thanks for downloading that. I loved watching those ridiculous, sanitized talking heads squirm in discomfort. After hearing his comments in context, I'm slightly surprised at the BBC having such a strong response. It was just Jeremy doing his usual shtick of making outrageous overstatements. I hardly think Jeremy was putting out a call to his faithful minions to go out and shoot striking workers. |
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Post by Mayfayre on Dec 2, 2011 8:59:04 GMT
Going the rounds (you'll understand it if you know about Benton/Fenton): Clarkson filmed chasing public sector workers across Richmond Park with James May shouting - "Clarkson - CLARKSON - CLARKSON! Jesus Christ!"If only I had the time to mock up a video of that ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by Wyvern on Dec 2, 2011 10:17:56 GMT
The BBC is being targeted by an orchestrated campaign of complaints - they've been deluged by 21,000 and counting, doubtless many from people who simply don't like Clarkson and want to see him kicked off the telly. The BBC are well aware that the comments are not spontaneous, and probably not from people who actually saw the show in the first place, but they're going to have very little choice but to take some kind of action, I suspect. We can hope for common sense and a slapped wrist, but in the meantime, there is something those of us with at least half a brain and a sense of perspective can do. Click here: faq.external.bbc.co.uk/templates/bbcfaqs/emailstatic/emailPage?_mftvst:answerRef=%24&_mftvst:entryID=%24comment&_mftvst:id=%24UPL67CCJN31AVE007IO293AVA6&_mftvst:moduleID=%24contact&_mftvst:searchString=%24If the link doesn't work, go to the FAQs on the BBC website (www.bbc.co.uk) and go to the 'contact us' section at the bottom of the page. Whatever you do, don't select the 'complaint' form! You'll have to poke about a bit - I couldn't find a direct link to it, but did find it in the FAQ section about contacting the BBC. Anyway, if you think the story has been misreported, or that it's just not that bad, or you want to urge the BBC not to overreact, go on and tell them. The show details you will need are 'The One Show', '30th November 2011' and 'BBC One'. Time to redress the balance, I think. |
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Post by dit on Dec 2, 2011 10:58:25 GMT
Thanks for that, I've added my comment.
Things must be coming to a pretty pass when even the Daily Fail appears to be supporting Clarkson, would you believe! It's running an article today with much the same information as all the others, but early in the piece it says,
"In a day of extraordinary overreaction to what was clearly meant as a joke..........."
which sounds as if the writer actually listened carefully to what was said rather than exploding within the first two seconds.
Anyway, has anyone thought of criticising the twerp who thought it was a good idea to ask Clarkson the question,
"Well Jeremy, schools, hospitals, airports, even driving tests, have all been affected. Do you think the strikes have been a good idea?"
and not expect an extreme reaction?
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Post by crumbs on Dec 2, 2011 11:26:29 GMT
I had no idea all this was happening until this morning - it's been a bad week.
I watched the clip: yes, it's obviously a joke and people have blatantly taken it the wrong way.
I do not think it was a very sensible joke however for all manner of reasons. Feelings are running very high in the public sector (I'm in it and it's bl**dy tough in my department) and his joke was bound to have repercussions from those who hate him. And many people do hate him.
This was bound to happen one day. It almost feels like there's some kind of self fulfilling prophecy to all this. I hope the BBC take appropriate action (ie. for goodness sake don't sack him) and all this blows over. TG without him is unthinkable - I can't imagine the Beeb would hurt that cash cow!
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Post by dit on Dec 2, 2011 12:19:42 GMT
I don't have access to the Times online but there's an interesting headline on their homepage:
Clarkson's strikers joke was agreed in advance by the BBC
The Mail, which really is in a levitating porkers situation today, also has this, does the Times itself have more?
It also emerged today that producers thought it would be amusing if the Top Gear host offered an extreme view of the strike that was not meant to be taken seriously, The Times said.
The production team were aware of the contents of the joke prior to broadcast but Mr Clarkson apparently took it one step further than they had expected when he said strikers should be shot in front of their families.
Also from the Mail, this from Richard Littlejohn:
And on that bombshell...
Unison is taking legal advice over Jeremy Clarkson saying the strikers should be taken out and shot in front of their families. The Prime Minister is forced to pass comment.
Oh, grow up.
Clarkson is big enough and ugly enough to fight his own corner. But if you ask a known controversialist on to a TV show and invite him to say something outrageous, don’t be outraged when he comes out with something controversial. The outrage is as synthetic as the original remark.
For the record, though, I don’t agree with Clarkson. I think they should be hung, drawn and quartered.
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Post by Wyvern on Dec 2, 2011 12:55:49 GMT
That absolutely beggars belief, but at the same time it does make sense that if you were going to have Jeremy on telly and you knew there would be a national strike, the decision to have both things happen the same day would have to be a conscious one. Perhaps that's what they really meant when they talked about them getting it wrong on this occasion...
I think it's perhaps more important to write to the BBC - and to Ofcom for that matter - in support of Jeremy in the light of this information. While his comments were bloody stupid, he doesn't deserve to cop all the flak if this is true.
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Post by crumbs on Dec 2, 2011 13:09:48 GMT
That absolutely beggars belief, but at the same time it does make sense that if you were going to have Jeremy on telly and you knew there would be a national strike, the decision to have both things happen the same day would have to be a conscious one. Perhaps that's what they really meant when they talked about them getting it wrong on this occasion... I think it's perhaps more important to write to the BBC - and to Ofcom for that matter - in support of Jeremy in the light of this information. While his comments were bloody stupid, he doesn't deserve to cop all the flak if this is true. It does sound plausible. My God, maybe there will be an enquiry (oh nooo)! I just hope all this does down naturally. The sooner the press gets bored of this subject, the better. But I do think Jeremy needs to be careful for a while...... |
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Post by Wyvern on Dec 2, 2011 13:13:42 GMT
More, from the Evening Standard:
Hmm...
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Post by crumbs on Dec 2, 2011 13:21:38 GMT
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Post by Vivienne on Dec 2, 2011 14:01:45 GMT
I'm not getting on a soapbox but what is more important the union issue or Jeremy's comments? It looks like his comments are winning out and that is because the union boss is angry. There needs to be some compartmentalization. Why did they make it out to be union v Jeremy? I have a question. Are all public employees covered by the same union? Here it's the teachers and schools are one, health is another etc.
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Post by crumbs on Dec 2, 2011 14:15:47 GMT
I'm not getting on a soapbox but what is more important the union issue or Jeremy's comments? It looks like his comments are winning out and that is because the union boss is angry. There needs to be some compartmentalization. Why did they make it out to be union v Jeremy? I have a question. Are all public employees covered by the same union? Here it's the teachers and schools are one, health is another etc. There are several unions - but many of thm are unified over the issue of pensions and cuts. Some Union leaders do appear to be saying more than others, but that may be deliberate. In truth, it's not the Union v Jeremy really - although I can understand that it appears that way: many people who have nothing to do with Unions have been offended. Jeremy made a joke which was seen as an inflammatory remark at a very very sensitve time for public sector workers. It has been blown out of proportion by the infamous British press. No, he shouldn't have said (or been allowed???) to say what he did and it's been worsened by the current context. It's ridiculous - there's far far more important news out there and hopefully this will blow over soon. |
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Post by Vivienne on Dec 2, 2011 15:01:49 GMT
I read somewhere that if the hosts had just laughed like they were supposed to it would have been obvious it was a joke, but they got ruffled and that dingbat looked like she wanted to leave.
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Post by slfriend79 on Dec 2, 2011 15:13:16 GMT
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Post by fallatyourfeet on Dec 2, 2011 20:45:16 GMT
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Post by Wyvern on Dec 2, 2011 21:07:35 GMT
The BBC has received over 300 messages of support for Jeremy, if not for his comments, and another 600+ that, while negative in content, were not couched as complaints. Given that it's very rare for people to contact the BBC when they're not complaining, I'm hoping it will carry some weight when they review the incident.
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Post by TheDaisy on Dec 2, 2011 21:19:55 GMT
I must lead a sheltered life cos I've never seen that Wy (nor will I ever do so now you've tipped me off ) I think 'avoid' is the operative word... ;D A friend of mine appeared on Snog, Marry, Avoid |
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Post by antonia on Dec 2, 2011 21:40:41 GMT
I think 'avoid' is the operative word... ;D A friend of mine appeared on Snog, Marry, Avoid Thats cool I know loads of girls in Liverpool worthy.Make up trowelled on,not many clothes and hair like a birds nest. |
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Post by inky on Dec 2, 2011 21:51:59 GMT
The BBC has received over 300 messages of support for Jeremy, if not for his comments, and another 600+ that, while negative in content, were not couched as complaints. Given that it's very rare for people to contact the BBC when they're not complaining, I'm hoping it will carry some weight when they review the incident. Well done to all those who sent messages of support. I did when I saw your earlier message Wy  |
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Post by eolise on Dec 2, 2011 22:34:23 GMT
it's indeed a typical Jeremy joke/saying that people can expect from this man. Really sad that people that dont like Jeremy are taking advantage of it.. |
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Post by Vivienne on Dec 2, 2011 22:56:25 GMT
Here's my 2 cents on the BBC page.
Mr. Clarkson's comments were OBVIOUSLY intended to be humorous. I think the fault with the show is the Hosts. They were not able to deal with a controversial person. Send them back to school for a refresher. Maybe Jay Leno would be available. Aren't the English known for their off kilter sense of humour? I enjoy Top Gear and the other presenters.
I was going to put other presenters shows and columns but it cut me off.
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Post by dit on Dec 3, 2011 1:39:03 GMT
The Telegraph is running on online poll for readers to vote as to whether Clarkson's comment was offensive, or whether he was obviously joking.
Votes at present?
'It was offensive' 24.17% (7982 votes)
'Obviously joking' 75.83% (25,039 votes)
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Post by eolise on Dec 3, 2011 8:01:44 GMT
lol ;D luckely most of us know Jeremy.
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Post by dit on Dec 3, 2011 11:14:49 GMT
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Post by antonia on Dec 3, 2011 11:35:21 GMT
I think people just need to get a grip and stop taking everything he says literally. I'm 100% behind the strikers (the socialist with me always comes out) and I thought the whole incident has been comical.
They asked him what he thought he told them and also gave the otherside of the argument on behalf of the beeb.
If the beeb don't like it they shouldn't be promoting free speach.
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Post by eolise on Dec 3, 2011 13:38:37 GMT
well said, Antonia!!
Me having a mental disorder, is very bad at understanding jokes and I take everything literally. So when I heard and read about what Jeremy said on The One Show, I was like ' oh, yea, I understand people dislike him now'. But after knowing more now, I think it's ridiculous the way people are acting towards Jeremy.
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