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Post by Vivienne on Dec 3, 2011 16:11:36 GMT
I believe I have had another epiphany. Does no one think it strange that after Jeremy makes those remarks about the strike it goes on to his being a patron of Help for Heroes. That was totally overlooked. It just goes to show some people only want to focus on the remarks that were considered non pc. Hypocrites.
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Post by antonia on Dec 4, 2011 16:30:17 GMT
I wish they'd give it a rest in the papers now.Bloody hell he'd only get slightly worse press if he'd of killed someone.
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Post by laurrra on Dec 5, 2011 18:36:37 GMT
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Post by Wyvern on Dec 6, 2011 9:36:26 GMT
There's a growing, and surprising, swell of support for Jeremy coming from the comedy community. They thought the joke was poor, and a lot of them have little fondness for Jeremy himself but they understand he was joking - and they think the reaction from the unions was excessive and the press reaction ridiculous. Charlie Brooker (who once called Jeremy the Worst Word In The World on live TV ;D) and Dave Gorman (who has repeatedly pointed out he's not a fan) got on board immediately, shortly followed by Dara O'Briain. Shappi Khorsandi was moved to tweet that she couldn't be bothered to get worked up about it (well done, Shappi, that's the correct answer) and today there's a lovely, balanced article in the Metro ( www.metro.co.uk/lifestyle/883917-ed-byrne-jeremy-clarkson-was-only-joking-hes-hardly-colonel-gaddafi) from Ed Byrne, who has responded with humour, despite making it quite clear he's not a fan. A lot of these people general fall into the Clarkson-bashing camp. I think it's very telling that at the time of his greatest controversy, rather than using it as an opportunity to knock the man, they've spoken out against the hysterical reaction it provoked. There are still sane people out there! (interestingly, the Metro belongs to the same publishing group as the Fail) |
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Post by FizzyLogician on Dec 6, 2011 14:12:58 GMT
Good article, but I can't believe the part about "Clarkson’s lack of warmth, charm or empathy." I never would have characterized him that way...he always seems very charming. I wonder if the writer saw the TG episode when Richard returned after his crash.
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Post by dit on Dec 6, 2011 14:35:23 GMT
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Post by Wyvern on Dec 6, 2011 19:38:46 GMT
Ouch. What a sharp piece of writing. I'm not at all sure I like being labelled a casual racist   However, the author's entitled to an opinion... |
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Post by thenonsensefairy on Dec 6, 2011 21:13:22 GMT
Haven't logged in since all this happened..
I thought it was all terribly stupid.
Jezza said a very daft thing really, but It was blown out of proportion completely!
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Post by eolise on Dec 7, 2011 14:15:37 GMT
Good article, but I can't believe the part about "Clarkson’s lack of warmth, charm or empathy." I never would have characterized him that way...he always seems very charming. I wonder if the writer saw the TG episode when Richard returned after his crash. Exactly! And if you've read Richard's book "On the Edge", you'll know how loving he was towards the family Hammond.. |
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Post by dit on Dec 9, 2011 19:42:00 GMT
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Post by Wyvern on Dec 9, 2011 20:26:29 GMT
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Post by dit on Dec 13, 2011 15:15:27 GMT
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Post by dit on Dec 19, 2011 1:51:22 GMT
Jeremy's latest column in the Sunday Times. Many thanks to Whitevanwoman on FG for this. I don't think Jeremy could have made his feelings any more obvious.
A Daily Mail scoop: I’m a nurse-killing Hitler in blue jeans
Jeremy Clarkson Published: 18 December 2011
Have you ever had one of those nightmares where you can neither see nor feel the monster that’s attacking you?
But you know it’s there all right, and unless you can get away, it’s going to gobble you up, burn your house down and sell your children for medical experiments. Well, let me tell you, such a creature exists in real life. It’s called the Daily Mail.
Like a Terminator, it doesn’t know right from wrong. You can’t reason with it. It has no sense of remorse or humility. It’s fuelled by hatred. It hates people who are successful. It hates people who are not. It hates people who are fat just as much as it hates people who are thin. It hates everybody. But for some reason it seems especially to hate me. So, with hindsight, I should have been a bit more wary when the presenters of The One Show asked me a few weeks ago what I thought of the public sector workers who had gone on strike. Knowing that a show such as this, with its skateboarding ducks and neat haircuts, isn’t really a platform for serious debate, I gave a wishy-washy Guardian answer, saying the walkout had made me all gooey and homesick for the Seventies. And then I said that because I was on the BBC, I ought to be balanced, so I launched into a right-wing tirade, saying they should all be executed in front of their families. We then moved on to a funny-shaped carrot, and that was that.
But, as you may have noticed, it wasn’t. Because someone took the rabid second part of my answer and put it on YouTube. Someone tweeted it. Someone Facebooked it. And then someone asked one of the trade unions behind the strike what it thought about the madman who had suggested on a fluffy-wuffy early evening show that teachers and nurses should be shot as their children looked on. Understandably, it thought I should be sacked. Then it had a rethink and suggested it might call in the police. Yes, it wanted me in jail. And so, out of nowhere, a story was born.
The following morning even the prime minister was asked for his views. Happily, he had gone to the trouble of finding out what I’d actually said and suggested I was just being “silly”. Downing Street even made a joke, saying: “Execution is not government policy and we have no plans to make it government policy.” Sadly, his opposite number from the Labour party — a man called Ed Miliband — hadn’t bothered to research the issue so, when he was asked for an opinion, he resorted to the reptilian response of every political nearly-man and said my remarks were “disgraceful and disgusting”. The story was really burning now. By this stage almost 5,000 people had complained, so the BBC and I decided we really ought to say sorry.
Sadly, this was like pouring petrol on the flames. Ha-ha. So he really did believe that Florence Nightingale should be tied to a post and machinegunned in front of her mum. The hysteria became worse. My house was surrounded by photographers. I was doorstepped by an ITN film crew in Beijing. I was papped constantly in Australia. And in Singapore airport on the way home I was patted on the back by the sort of idiotic right-wing lunatic I’d been mimicking on The One Show. I’d become a poster boy for the British National party. I was Adolf Hitler in Levi’s. And it was all ridiculous. During Wimbledon one year I seem to recall that Terry Wogan said he’d like to take a machinegun to all the people on Henman Hill. No one took him seriously, but me, the two-bit presenter of a poky motoring show on BBC2? Somehow an opinion that wasn’t even mine had become the nation’s No 1 topic of conversation. Apparently I had top billing on that week’s Question Time. I was front-page news for days. Even Bill Oddie was dragged away from his beavers and asked for an opinion. The worst, though, came from the Mail. It said that I was a mental, that my mother had been extremely right-wing and that my parents had had little empathy with those less fortunate than themselves. Quite what my poor old mum had done to deserve this after years of unpaid public service, I’m not entirely sure.
But that’s the trouble with the Mail. There are many creatures on this earth that behave in an unusual way. We can’t explain how pigeons find their houses from thousands of miles away or how salmon can find the very spot where they were born. But nothing in the kingdom of nature is quite so unfathomable as a Mail reporter. They look human. They have opposable thumbs and are capable of catching buses. But they don’t have the capacity for reason. You can tell them what happened. You can prove it. But it will make no difference. Here’s an example. Last week Mark Thompson, the BBC’s director-general, was asked by an MP if I was a luxury the corporation could not afford. In the Daily Mail this became a statement. “Jeremy Clarkson is a luxury the BBC cannot afford.” Somehow it had turned a question into a fact. I really do believe that in the whole furore over press standards the wrong newspaper has been closed down.
Anyway, I suppose that while I’m here and there’s a little bit of space left, I ought really to set the record straight. So here goes. I absolutely do not think that the public service workers who went on strike should be shot or punished in any way. But, that said, in these times of great economic uncertainty, when everyone is faced with a need to tighten their belt, it’s probably reasonable to take the trade union leaders who organised the strike deep into the Blue John Cavern in Derbyshire and leave them there for a little while.
Clarkson calls for trade union leaders to be buried alive. Read it this week, exclusively, in the Daily Mail.
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Post by amie8 on Dec 19, 2011 2:02:36 GMT
Good article, which won't endear him any more to The Mail.
Thanks for posting
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Post by Vivienne on Dec 19, 2011 2:36:30 GMT
Most of the comments in the article were positive in response, for Jeremy.
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Post by dit on Dec 19, 2011 16:19:01 GMT
The media regulator OFCOM has now decided to investigate whether Jeremy's comments "broke broadcasting rules on taste and decency". Sheesh!
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Hops
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Post by Hops on Dec 19, 2011 16:25:48 GMT
seriously? :-|
Great article. It's obvious he feels very strongly about the whole thing.
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Post by Vivienne on Dec 19, 2011 16:31:26 GMT
Saw all the tweets.I guess Jeremy's comments are more important to the Guardian that North Korea. I'm guessing OFCOM is comparable to our FCC-Federal Communication Commission, I think.
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Post by Wyvern on Dec 19, 2011 16:55:38 GMT
No, The One Show appearance is being investigated. As there has been such a fuss, they're obliged to investigate as it appears a breach may have occurred. Which is massively depressing really, because it has implications for anyone expressing a controversial opinion on TV or even making a joke in a 'live' setting - remember, we don't have absolute freedom of speech under UK law. Normally, this is a good thing - it means organisations like Westboro Baptist Church couldn't operate in the way they do here because of our laws on hate speech - but sometimes other rules are applied a bit zealously.
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Post by Vivienne on Dec 19, 2011 17:09:05 GMT
Sounds like Ofcom is busy. They're also investigating channel 5 for the f bomb.
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Post by dit on Jan 7, 2012 14:03:17 GMT
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Post by Vivienne on Jan 7, 2012 15:18:50 GMT
I read that earlier Dit and hits the nail on the head, within seconds incidents, things people don't need to know are out there for all to read, assuming they can read.
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Post by amie8 on Jan 7, 2012 22:06:08 GMT
Katherine Doggrell is a bit of an unfortunate name for a journalist
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Post by Wyvern on Jan 9, 2012 0:58:10 GMT
Katherine Doggrell is a bit of an unfortunate name for a journalist Not as bad as Roger Boyes... |
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Post by amie8 on Jan 9, 2012 23:38:19 GMT
Katherine Doggrell is a bit of an unfortunate name for a journalist Not as bad as Roger Boyes... Oooh...bad! ;D |
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Post by jacqui on Feb 20, 2012 13:08:08 GMT
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Post by eshalda on Feb 20, 2012 13:51:17 GMT
I have just heard this reported on the 1 o'clock news. At least his comments were looked at in contex,t and he has been pronounced 'not guilty,' I'm very pleased.
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Post by dit on Feb 24, 2012 13:25:25 GMT
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I love a man who can handle a gun 
